SarahVaughter
February 6th, 2010, 02:40 PM
>I just had a couple of questions I needed to ask you before I go ahead with ordering my
>first round of the Lufenuron. My name is [deleted], I am 18, I live in the U.S., and I've
>suffered terribly from G.I. distress for 5 years. I've had gynecological issues for almost a
>year, on and off. I have gotten precious little help from my G.I. Doctor, due to the fact
>that I lost quite a lot of weight from not being able to eat much before growing sick to
>my stomach. I was labeled as Anorexic and sent home. I am NOT Anorexic. I hate being
>so dang-blasted skinny! I went to a well meaning Natropathic Doctor and she informed
>me, via a few special tests, that I have a bad Candida overgrowth. I haven't had any
>luck with the ThreeLac I was put on, so I'm doing a great deal of research, hoping to
>help myself through this issue. I've learned so much! I am confident that the Lufenuron
>will help me, providing I change my diet as well. My main questions are as follows:
>I've found that Caprilic acid seams to help a little bit, but it feels like it needs a strong
>counterpart to help it. Do you think that it would be safe to take this with the
>Lufenuron, and if so, would it aid the Lufenuron?
>Are die-off reactions dangerous, or just really uncomfortable? Vomiting, ect.
>I take a product called CellFood, and like it very much. The bottle states that it
>shouldn't be taken with any medication because it will increase the meds absorption and
>could cause toxicity. Is this a risk with the Lufenuron? Should I continue to take my
>CellFood, or discontinue it while I'm on the Lufenuron?
>I do really want to take a prebiotic/probiotic supplement, because I know It's essential.
>I've been looking at two different products, Garden of Life's Primal Defense Ultra, or Dr.
>Ohhira's Probiotics 12 Plus Professional Formula. I can't figure out which one would be
>best! The Primal Defense is a Soil Based Probiotic. It looks like dirt, literally! My concern
>with that is, could the LuLu (my personal nickname for Lufenuron :-) kill of these soil
>based probiotics, since Lufenuron in some form has been used as an anti-fungal in plants
>and on crops. (I read this on Wikipedia). Wouldn't it have a killing effect on the good soil
>organisms in the probiotic formula? The other one, Dr. Ohhira's, seems to be very good
>quality, but again, will the LuLu kill the probiotic "Good Guys" I'm ingesting while taking it?
>I'd love to know which one you'd recommend!
>I don't have a way to make my own yogurt, but I buy large amounts of an Organic,
>hormone/preservative free, unsweetened, very sour and yummy, European- style,
>full-fat goat yogurt. Would this be okay as the next best thing to homemade yogurt to
>take the Lufenuron in?
>I know I'll need to eat a fatty meal when I take the LuLu. My stomach is a huge brat
>when it comes to ingesting larger sized meals. If I'm careful to include plenty of good
>quality fats, (Organic Butter, raw Walnuts, Fish, Chicken), in my small-ish meals, will this
>still be sufficient for the absorption of the LuLu?
>Those are my questions. I'm sorry this turned out to be so long! I would truly appreciate
>any information you could pass along, and any answers you could give. I'm looking
>forward to ordering this stuff! Thank you for the information you've provide on the
>Internet. I'd never heard of Lufenuron before, but once I did a bunch of my own
>research, it just makes sense. Thank you again.
I'll try to answer your questions as well as I can - my answers may be controversial :-)
What kind of tests did the naturopath do?
Often people are misdiagnosed as having Candida, while in fact they have something more complex.
In your case for example, you may have a neurological problem that causes a "sick to the stomch" reaction.
For ex. if you have a lingering, low-level viral inflammation of the capillaries to part of the brain, a remnant of a previous illness.
So I am not sure Lufenuron will help you, but at least you will be able to know for sure whether you're actually are suffering from Candidiasis.
Because if it doesn't have an effect on you, it is highly unlikely that you have it.
But I assume you have done your research and have Candida problems.
As of being skinny - this is largely a cultural thing. As long as you're getting enough nutrients and are not _too_ skinny, it's actually very healthy.
Not just for your general health, but also to keep your joints in good shape, later in life.
ThreeLac is not very helpful, I'm afraid. It's only useful to replenish dead gut flora after a course of antibiotics.
Yes you can take Caprilic acid with Lufenuron, and yes, everything that kills Candida will work synergistically with Lufenuron.
Die-off reactions can only be life-threatening when at this moment you are already in a acutely life-threatening situation due to Candida toxins. So no, no dangerous reactions. You can feel bad for a few days, that's all. Affected skin areas can develop crusts or peel.
I just looked at CellFood, and think it's a scam. There is no such thing as "water-splitting", and any "oxygen supplement" would be downright dangerous - if it would exist, which it doesn't, due to the limitations of chemistry. Apart from Ozone-IV's. You have to understand that Oxygen is one of the most damaging substances known to mankind. It is highly carcinogenic and it is one of the most dangerous free radicals out there. This is why Ozone is such a harmful gas - it splits off atomic Oxygen, which can cause severe damage to the body. Even the oxygen in the air is thought to be responsible for 20% of all cancers. They estimate that if the air would have 22% instead of 21% oxygen, people would have 5% more cancer. Oxygen is that bad for you. Sure, you can't live without oxygen, but at the same time, it's dangerous. For example, a person dies in mere hours when breathing pure oxygen. Any OR nurse knows that. Nitrox divers also know that.
All those minerals and enzymes etc. they claim to have are there in minute, useless quantities. And most enzymes don't even survive the stomach!
But no, it will not interfere with Lufenuron.
As to probiotics being essential - this is not true. As long as you eat proper food and are not on antibiotics, you do not need any probiotics. Even while on antibiotics, probiotics will have no effect (because the antibiotics kill them). The probiotics industry is getting bigger than the arms industry soon :-)
They SPAM forums a lot, pretending to be happy users, but no, probiotics can't help much. What you DO need is to strenghten your immune system. You do that by eating the absolute heathiest food possible, and that is EXPENSIVE. You probably can't afford super-healthy food right now, because you pay so much for all these supplements..
You should eat pistachio nuts, cashew nuts, walnuts and other (fresh!) nuts. Expensive but they contain natural antifungal substances. Avocado's, oily fish (sardines have the least mercury, fresh mackerel is excellent) and especially SALADS. With many different fresh greens, feta cheese, olives, as much wholesome mediterranean ingredients and herbs you can get your hands on. This is EXPENSIVE but will replenish all those nutrients your body is lacking to fix its immune system. Probiotics can't do that, neither can CellFood.
Salads are a source of much better probiotics than ThreeLac. The leaves have hundreds of different beneficial bacteria living on them, while factory-produced ThreeLac has only a few.
It would be much better to swap CellFood for a multivitamin product containing all vitamins and important minerals and trace elements at several times RDA doses.
Yes you can use any kind of yoghurt to mix the Lufenuron in, as long as it contains a few % fat and you also take it with a meal that contains some fats/oils.
Lufenuron kills almost all fungi and yeasts, but beneficial probiotics are always bacteria, never fungi. Fungi have no useful role in our bodies and a healthy colon contains less than one Candida yeast cell per 1000 bacteria. So yes, you can safely take Lufenuron with any probiotic supplement.
The best probiotic supplement is very fresh Kefir or yogurt that has been made using several living probiotic bacteria strains. Read the label, it should mention _living_ bifidobacteria, lactobacillus etc. At least three different families to be a really good probiotic supplement. But salads beat even yogurts! As the salad is digested, the bacteria on the leaves start multiplying. Just don't make a salad full of ham & cheese, go heavy on the leafy greens, tomato, cucumber etc. The bigger the salad, the better. I often make 8 lbs / 4 kg and John and I eat mainly salad for a few days. With olive oil, concentrated vit. C water instead of vinnegar and about twenty other fresh ingredients such as pine seeds, fresh dill, cellery stalks etc. You can add a bit of yogurt to "seed" the salad. The bacteria can multiply inside the salad bulk during the digestive process. A big job and bloody expensive but a huge immune-boost and probiotics boost!
It takes effort to become healthy again. There are no shortcuts or miracle supplements. You need to go out, spend a bundle on a heavvy bag full of fresh produce, spend at least an hour cutting it up and then eat salad for a few days. It sounds mundane, but yes, a good salad is much better than any supplement. Science doesn't even fully understand everything about essential nutrients. We just know that people who eat naturally, live longer and healthier lives.
It's very important (essential) to eat some fat (oil) with the "LuLu" :-)
It doesn't have to be much, but the more the better. You could theoretically take all 15 grams in a single dose if you would mix it with a lot of fatty food, but exactly because of people like yourself we recommend spreading it over 5 days. So a bit of fatty food will be OK.
Hope this helps :-)
>first round of the Lufenuron. My name is [deleted], I am 18, I live in the U.S., and I've
>suffered terribly from G.I. distress for 5 years. I've had gynecological issues for almost a
>year, on and off. I have gotten precious little help from my G.I. Doctor, due to the fact
>that I lost quite a lot of weight from not being able to eat much before growing sick to
>my stomach. I was labeled as Anorexic and sent home. I am NOT Anorexic. I hate being
>so dang-blasted skinny! I went to a well meaning Natropathic Doctor and she informed
>me, via a few special tests, that I have a bad Candida overgrowth. I haven't had any
>luck with the ThreeLac I was put on, so I'm doing a great deal of research, hoping to
>help myself through this issue. I've learned so much! I am confident that the Lufenuron
>will help me, providing I change my diet as well. My main questions are as follows:
>I've found that Caprilic acid seams to help a little bit, but it feels like it needs a strong
>counterpart to help it. Do you think that it would be safe to take this with the
>Lufenuron, and if so, would it aid the Lufenuron?
>Are die-off reactions dangerous, or just really uncomfortable? Vomiting, ect.
>I take a product called CellFood, and like it very much. The bottle states that it
>shouldn't be taken with any medication because it will increase the meds absorption and
>could cause toxicity. Is this a risk with the Lufenuron? Should I continue to take my
>CellFood, or discontinue it while I'm on the Lufenuron?
>I do really want to take a prebiotic/probiotic supplement, because I know It's essential.
>I've been looking at two different products, Garden of Life's Primal Defense Ultra, or Dr.
>Ohhira's Probiotics 12 Plus Professional Formula. I can't figure out which one would be
>best! The Primal Defense is a Soil Based Probiotic. It looks like dirt, literally! My concern
>with that is, could the LuLu (my personal nickname for Lufenuron :-) kill of these soil
>based probiotics, since Lufenuron in some form has been used as an anti-fungal in plants
>and on crops. (I read this on Wikipedia). Wouldn't it have a killing effect on the good soil
>organisms in the probiotic formula? The other one, Dr. Ohhira's, seems to be very good
>quality, but again, will the LuLu kill the probiotic "Good Guys" I'm ingesting while taking it?
>I'd love to know which one you'd recommend!
>I don't have a way to make my own yogurt, but I buy large amounts of an Organic,
>hormone/preservative free, unsweetened, very sour and yummy, European- style,
>full-fat goat yogurt. Would this be okay as the next best thing to homemade yogurt to
>take the Lufenuron in?
>I know I'll need to eat a fatty meal when I take the LuLu. My stomach is a huge brat
>when it comes to ingesting larger sized meals. If I'm careful to include plenty of good
>quality fats, (Organic Butter, raw Walnuts, Fish, Chicken), in my small-ish meals, will this
>still be sufficient for the absorption of the LuLu?
>Those are my questions. I'm sorry this turned out to be so long! I would truly appreciate
>any information you could pass along, and any answers you could give. I'm looking
>forward to ordering this stuff! Thank you for the information you've provide on the
>Internet. I'd never heard of Lufenuron before, but once I did a bunch of my own
>research, it just makes sense. Thank you again.
I'll try to answer your questions as well as I can - my answers may be controversial :-)
What kind of tests did the naturopath do?
Often people are misdiagnosed as having Candida, while in fact they have something more complex.
In your case for example, you may have a neurological problem that causes a "sick to the stomch" reaction.
For ex. if you have a lingering, low-level viral inflammation of the capillaries to part of the brain, a remnant of a previous illness.
So I am not sure Lufenuron will help you, but at least you will be able to know for sure whether you're actually are suffering from Candidiasis.
Because if it doesn't have an effect on you, it is highly unlikely that you have it.
But I assume you have done your research and have Candida problems.
As of being skinny - this is largely a cultural thing. As long as you're getting enough nutrients and are not _too_ skinny, it's actually very healthy.
Not just for your general health, but also to keep your joints in good shape, later in life.
ThreeLac is not very helpful, I'm afraid. It's only useful to replenish dead gut flora after a course of antibiotics.
Yes you can take Caprilic acid with Lufenuron, and yes, everything that kills Candida will work synergistically with Lufenuron.
Die-off reactions can only be life-threatening when at this moment you are already in a acutely life-threatening situation due to Candida toxins. So no, no dangerous reactions. You can feel bad for a few days, that's all. Affected skin areas can develop crusts or peel.
I just looked at CellFood, and think it's a scam. There is no such thing as "water-splitting", and any "oxygen supplement" would be downright dangerous - if it would exist, which it doesn't, due to the limitations of chemistry. Apart from Ozone-IV's. You have to understand that Oxygen is one of the most damaging substances known to mankind. It is highly carcinogenic and it is one of the most dangerous free radicals out there. This is why Ozone is such a harmful gas - it splits off atomic Oxygen, which can cause severe damage to the body. Even the oxygen in the air is thought to be responsible for 20% of all cancers. They estimate that if the air would have 22% instead of 21% oxygen, people would have 5% more cancer. Oxygen is that bad for you. Sure, you can't live without oxygen, but at the same time, it's dangerous. For example, a person dies in mere hours when breathing pure oxygen. Any OR nurse knows that. Nitrox divers also know that.
All those minerals and enzymes etc. they claim to have are there in minute, useless quantities. And most enzymes don't even survive the stomach!
But no, it will not interfere with Lufenuron.
As to probiotics being essential - this is not true. As long as you eat proper food and are not on antibiotics, you do not need any probiotics. Even while on antibiotics, probiotics will have no effect (because the antibiotics kill them). The probiotics industry is getting bigger than the arms industry soon :-)
They SPAM forums a lot, pretending to be happy users, but no, probiotics can't help much. What you DO need is to strenghten your immune system. You do that by eating the absolute heathiest food possible, and that is EXPENSIVE. You probably can't afford super-healthy food right now, because you pay so much for all these supplements..
You should eat pistachio nuts, cashew nuts, walnuts and other (fresh!) nuts. Expensive but they contain natural antifungal substances. Avocado's, oily fish (sardines have the least mercury, fresh mackerel is excellent) and especially SALADS. With many different fresh greens, feta cheese, olives, as much wholesome mediterranean ingredients and herbs you can get your hands on. This is EXPENSIVE but will replenish all those nutrients your body is lacking to fix its immune system. Probiotics can't do that, neither can CellFood.
Salads are a source of much better probiotics than ThreeLac. The leaves have hundreds of different beneficial bacteria living on them, while factory-produced ThreeLac has only a few.
It would be much better to swap CellFood for a multivitamin product containing all vitamins and important minerals and trace elements at several times RDA doses.
Yes you can use any kind of yoghurt to mix the Lufenuron in, as long as it contains a few % fat and you also take it with a meal that contains some fats/oils.
Lufenuron kills almost all fungi and yeasts, but beneficial probiotics are always bacteria, never fungi. Fungi have no useful role in our bodies and a healthy colon contains less than one Candida yeast cell per 1000 bacteria. So yes, you can safely take Lufenuron with any probiotic supplement.
The best probiotic supplement is very fresh Kefir or yogurt that has been made using several living probiotic bacteria strains. Read the label, it should mention _living_ bifidobacteria, lactobacillus etc. At least three different families to be a really good probiotic supplement. But salads beat even yogurts! As the salad is digested, the bacteria on the leaves start multiplying. Just don't make a salad full of ham & cheese, go heavy on the leafy greens, tomato, cucumber etc. The bigger the salad, the better. I often make 8 lbs / 4 kg and John and I eat mainly salad for a few days. With olive oil, concentrated vit. C water instead of vinnegar and about twenty other fresh ingredients such as pine seeds, fresh dill, cellery stalks etc. You can add a bit of yogurt to "seed" the salad. The bacteria can multiply inside the salad bulk during the digestive process. A big job and bloody expensive but a huge immune-boost and probiotics boost!
It takes effort to become healthy again. There are no shortcuts or miracle supplements. You need to go out, spend a bundle on a heavvy bag full of fresh produce, spend at least an hour cutting it up and then eat salad for a few days. It sounds mundane, but yes, a good salad is much better than any supplement. Science doesn't even fully understand everything about essential nutrients. We just know that people who eat naturally, live longer and healthier lives.
It's very important (essential) to eat some fat (oil) with the "LuLu" :-)
It doesn't have to be much, but the more the better. You could theoretically take all 15 grams in a single dose if you would mix it with a lot of fatty food, but exactly because of people like yourself we recommend spreading it over 5 days. So a bit of fatty food will be OK.
Hope this helps :-)